Best farm systems in baseball

**pvfan** · May 11th, 2011, 05:08 PM

One day, I will understand why Jason Heyward is the next big thing. He's a good player and I think he may be great but comments like this post are laughable. One of the best in the league at his position?

**pvfan** · May 11th, 2011, 05:13 PM

Before some Braves fan gets on here and starts praising Heyward. According to Biggin, Heyward is better than:

Andre Either
Lance Berkman
Justin Upton
Hunter Pence
Jason Werth
Corey Heart

Looks more like league average to me, and I didn't even metion guys like Stanton and Bruce who you could argue are better.

**Biggin** · May 11th, 2011, 10:38 PM

I would take Heyward over:
Berkman
Pence
Werth
Hart

In a heartbeat.

Are you arguing that a guy who scored 83 runs, had 18 HR, 72 RBI, walked 91 times, an OBP of .393 and had 127 total bases in his ROOKIE year isnt one of the best RFs in baseball?

Please show me all these RFs who outperform JH.

If a guy is top 5 at his position, is he not one of the best at his position in the game?

**pvfan** · May 11th, 2011, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

I would take Heyward over:
Berkman
Pence
Werth
Hart

In a heartbeat.

This is why it is pointless to discuss. Call me when Heyward does this for five straight seasons like the outfielders I mentioned have and then we'll talk.

**Biggin** · May 11th, 2011, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

This is why it is pointless to discuss. Call me when Heyward does this for five straight seasons like the outfielders I mentioned have and then we'll talk.

You really wanna take 70 year old Berkman, who cant hardly run, over Heyward?

Or Werth, in his mid 30s? Or Hart, who has reached his ceiling?

Pence I have no problem with. I can see someone taking Pence right now over JH.
Heyward has a higher ceiling but Pence is a very good player.

**pvfan** · May 11th, 2011, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

You really wanna take 70 year old Berkman, who cant hardly run, over Heyward?

Or Werth, in his mid 30s? Or Hart, who has reached his ceiling?

Pence I have no problem with. I can see someone taking Pence right now over JH.
Heyward has a higher ceiling but Pence is a very good player.

Uh, Berkman .367 10 hr 32 rbi 27 runs 1.179 ops
Golden Boy Heyward .220 7 hr 14 rbi 18 runs .755 ops

You said today, not 2015. Hart is sub 30 coming off a career year and even Werth who is off to a slow start (I can't stand Werth btw) is still a solid 25-30 hr hitter with 85-95 rbi while hiting nearly .300 and putting up ops numbers in the high 800's to mid 900's.

**7teen** · May 12th, 2011, 02:57 PM

If we are taking a player and keeping him for 10 years, I take Heyward.

Taking a player for the right now, I take Berkman. But at the same time, if Berkman is on a different team and not surrounded by the bats of Pujols and Holliday, I don't think he produces like he is this season. But with that said, I take Jay Bruce over either! But I'm biased as well.